If you're using a 60Hz monitor there is little reason to go all out with the CPU. Any of these CPUs will be fine for a 60Hz display so get whatever saves you the most money.
To get that extra $70 out of people who don't know any better lol. That's literally why it exists.
I'm honestly impressed by your ability to score deals. Plus it looks really nice.
Speaking of V's, I used to have an LTD Alexi-200. Love the Jackson Rhoads, especially with the chrome pick guard. Charvel is another brand I like(since they're basically Jacksons anyway).
I'm with you on that though, if I spend too much time eyeing guitars I'll end up with more. My wish list on zZounds is already 4 pages of guitars haha.
I used to have Roland's cheapest model that was kind of an all in one folding unit. This was like 8 years ago though. I'm not very good at drums so it was something cheap to have fun on. I'll have to keep an eye out for a used kit, it would be fun to start trying to drum again!
Ahh, yeah, then you should be pretty set! Even if you have to increase the buffer it's not a big deal since extra latency doesn't make much difference.
I track guitars and bass so extra latency is super annoying. When I use my MIDI keyboard(Komplete Kontrol S61 MK2) I just quantize it if latency is too bad(or, more likely, my timing sucks lol).
Jealous of that drum kit though. Been wanting a TD-25 for a looong time.
Yeah, when it comes to multitrack DSP this thing will definitely be an absolute monster.
Do you track live instruments? That's been the main thing getting in my way(well, that and the amount of VIs I use) and why I'm strongly considering switching back to Intel chips for my DAW machine.
What buffer size are you able to run with this beast?
You mean like a poor person lol.
What's the matter? Mommy and daddy can't afford anything that costs more than $200?
I can't believe how edgy you are. I literally got cut reading your comments.
My first beer of the night was a Guinness 200th Anniversary Stout haha. Though I'm much more into craft stouts and porters. Guinness was my entry into the world of stouts.
When it comes to guitars though, I'm a huge Jackson fanboy. I've had a few in my time, but right now I just have a Pro Series SL7 Soloist(the one that's my icon, beautiful finish) and a JS series 7 string Dinky. Then I've also got a multi-scale Legator 7 string that I got on clearance. I'm one of those prog metal guys, so I love my extended range.
The headstocks on that Parker is wild though, I love it.
Here's my current collection. I also have a cheap 5 string Ibanez bass. Love natural finishes. https://imgur.com/a/VOcigvS
+1 for guitar.
...Even if it is a Gibson/Epiphone.
Considering Insignia is Best Buy's house brand, I would assume(er...hope) that they have enough sense to make sure it's not a complete piece of garbage or a fire hazard haha.
Super envious that you got a Titan Xp for free.
Ayyyy, finally another audio person on here.
What DAW, plugins and VI's do you use?
Also, that monitor sounds sick as ****. I bet you can fit like, 40+ tracks on screen in your mix console.
Audio production likes RAM.
What's your buffer size? I wasn't very pleased with my 3900X for audio production.
If I remember correctly, certain B85 boards can OC. 5 years ago I realllly wanted to do a emulator build based on a G3258 due to it's impressive overclocking capabilities.
I'm going to use this build as a retort to people who say you can't build a PC worth a **** for under $500.
This is honestly a great budget build. 8GB of RAM is a little iffy, but I doubt you'll have any real problems. I am a little concerned about the quality of an Insignia PSU but...I'm sure you could do much worse. Nice job.
What are those fans? I like them a lot.
Damn, I would have been all over that lol.
You can stop stalking and harassing me now, thanks.
But for the record, this PC hits a minimum of 60 FPS on the TV it's connected to, and a minimum of 80 FPS when using the Oculus Rift S. There was literally no reason at all to use higher speed RAM. If I really wanted to, I could tune them to run faster or with tighter timings. Like I've done with basically all of my other kits.
I log in a few days ago and see you've commented a dozen times on my builds, yet you simply ignore the information I've given you. Why are you so bothered by my decision to return hardware that didn't provide the performance I desired? Because I can afford to buy whatever the **** I want?
Here's a thought: do some research yourself on DAW performance with various CPUs.
Max overclocking potential of a 5700 is much lower than a 2060 Super. I've tested multiple cards first hand and this has been verified by plenty of testers.
And yes, a 2060 SUPER(which gets the same performance as a 2070) can reach performance levels of a 5700 XT. Again, can you not read?
As far as shortening the lifespan of hardware, that's not entirely true. It depends on how much you overclock, how much extra voltage is applied, and how well temperatures are controlled. I've been doing this for a decade, go away.
You literally know nothing about audio production. I've done thousands of hours of research and testing. Also, I had an X570 board, can you not read? It's in the parts list and the pictures lol.
Nobody here is mad, you're just ignorant lol. You can't even read a parts list and you know absolutely nothing about my use case scenario, the requirements, or how various hardware performs. Audio production isn't gaming. It isn't video editing. It isn't like any other type of productivity work. The chip design itself is the reason Ryzen doesn't get the same low latency audio performance as Intel.
Also I DID buy 5700's, 2 of them, and I returned both of them. If it makes you feel any better, I returned a 2060 Super too lol. Stuck with my reference card and returned the EVGA XC Ultra.
False. 5700s run at near peak performance out of the box, which is cool. My 2060 Super, on the other hand, can be overclocked a decent amount(to basically match a 5700XT). I also got 2 free games with it compared to a few months of Xbox Game Pass that the 5700s came with. Hardware Unboxed did a massive 41 game benchmark and found that at stock speeds, the 2060 Super outperforms the 5700. That's stock. I don't run my **** stock lol.
Come back when you've tested even half as much hardware as me and understand my use case scenario. Or I guess you can stalk me some more like a creeper, I don't care lol.
Because it wasn't giving me the low latency audio performance I desired. This wasn't a gaming PC, that part was just a bonus. Now I run an HEDT for audio and a rebuilt gaming PC(with a new GPU) for gaming/VR. Technically, 2 for VR, because we have VR in 2 rooms so my husband and I can play together.
Lol on the contrary, my dedicated audio rig uses an RX 570. Having an Nvidia card in an audio PC adds latency because their drivers have unnecessary **** running in the background.
It's not about instant gratification. It's about being able to do the work needed. This isn't a toy, it's a tool. I want my tools to work effectively and efficiently.
You understand nothing about pro audio lol. The difference between having audio dropouts and not having audio dropouts is worth a lot. Most pro producers who make 6 figures doing it say **** it and pony up the money for a Mac but...I can build better for less and don't make that kind of money lol.
9980XE killed every TR processor in audio production. It's literally the best you can buy for an audio PC, period. AMD's design doesn't perform as well with low latency audio, especially tracking live instruments. I may not be poor, but I'm not blowing 2 grand(or, realistically, maxing out a credit card lol) just to buy a processor. Stick to talking about things you know about.
I don't know what there is to "man up" about. I bought ****, it didn't do what I needed it to, so I returned it and bought something that did. It's a pretty simple concept.
Yup! They could have even been placed higher if need be. It's a pretty awesome cooler. Stupid quiet too thanks to the fans only spinning up to ~800RPM.
Not for audio lol. A 3600 can't handle my projects. I need performance. Period.
I'm not spending $400 on a GPU to not be able to use it. That's ******* stupid. I'm also not spending $400 on a VR headset to not be able to use it. Again, that's ******* stupid.
Because it didn't give me the performance I wanted or needed. So no, it didn't "work", not how I needed it to.
This wasn't a gaming PC, it was an audio production PC. They have different requirements and utilize hardware in different ways. Being able to play VR on it was a bonus, but in the end having a dedicated PC for each task was a much more effective solution.
Sorry for choosing hardware that benefits my use case scenario. I work overtime a lot, so I buy the things I want that give me the performance I need. Try it some time. Or keep being broke and envious, your call.
Because I bought it when RAM prices were high and I didn't need high speed RAM. This one is a gaming PC. My husband is the primary user of this, he didn't want to spend an extra 80 bucks(at the time) for faster RAM that would provide no noticeable benefit.
It's almost as if you don't understand what "90% rebuild" means. I'll give you a hint: it means 90% of the parts were purchased long before the build was completed and posted.
Take a look at the board layout and come back when you know what you're talking about lol.
I never said anything about USB being ran from SATA, and they do not have their own chipset. The majority of USB on X570 comes from the X570 chipset itself, some straight from the CPU. That's one advantage of the newer I/O on X570, the fact that extra controllers aren't needed. However some boards do opt for an additional SATA controller.
We're talking about the most "future proof" consumer platform with the most features. Between Z390 and X570, it's the latter. Period. The ability to add more **** without having to buy AICs definitely has an impact, you just don't get it lol.
That's why I gave it 3 stars instead of 1. Begone.
Also, seeing how Sapphire only sells AMD cards, I'm going to throw shade at them for choosing to only work with a company that is known to have hit or miss drivers.
I'd check out performance-pcs.com, they have a pretty wide selection. From memory I know they carry all of those brands and at least some of those parts.
I really like that CPU block.
Lol there's more to I/O than link speed.
"Most of that is wrong, let me mention a bunch of things you never said while touching on nothing you did say"
This website lol.
Let me ask you something. Why do you think X570 boards tend to have more USB ports along with M.2 ports that don't share bandwidth with SATA ports? Because Intel is mean? Lol...
Unless you need 64GB of RAM there's no point buying it. Games aren't going to use that much RAM until after DDR5 is mainstream(possibly DDR6). 32GB is pretty unnecessary too, given you're building a gaming PC. Having more RAM only helps if you're running out of RAM.
I don't know how things are where you live, but check pricing on 970 Evos. They're getting phased out so some retailers here in the US have them as cheap as/cheaper than regular SATA SSDs, so it might be the same where you're at.
I'm not paying $1200 for a ******* graphics card lol, my most expensive guitar wasn't even that much. I'm not rich, just married with no chance of ever having kids. So instead of buying clothes and toys for some little rugrats, we get to spend that money on ourselves lol.
I typically just don't respond well to people with their "Why would you buy x?", especially when they think every PC is a gaming PC. Only reason I haven't deleted the build is because it looked sick lol.
Also if money wasn't an issue I would have bought a 9980XE, a MOTU interface and a Valve Index.
In most games I can hit pretty high framerates if the GPU is powerful enough. On a 60Hz monitor the lower clock speed of a locked i5 should still be fine for a bit(Skylake/Kaby Lake that is). Some exceptions here and there. Something older like an i5 2400 definitely is due for an upgrade sooner than later lol.
My VR/gaming PC has a 7600K at 5GHz and runs into no issues. The OC helps, but unless you're chasing high frame rates it's not much of an issues. Though there are games that hammer your CPU with tasks. Like simulation games that have a lot of complex AI.
Is your CPU holding you back in any applications? If not, then I would wait a little longer so you can get even more for your money.
"Just don't use the device you spent $400 on a few weeks ago". This is what fanboyism does to people. That's the stupidest suggestion. Literally the only thing I want to do with my PC is play VR and produce music and you're suggesting I just wait and hope AMD fixes their **** so I can do both lol.
VR doesn't need a high end GPU unless you want to max out every setting and use supersampling. Heavy DSP workloads make use of multithreaded processing power. If you looked at the parts list you would know this is obviously an audio workstation that is also used for VR.
Well, seeing how it hasn't been 2004 for 15 years...
Also, never said it did. Why do I need luck? I'm not the OP...
Let me see if I can explain in more simple terms. I'm well aware that Z270 won't work with 9th gen. That's why I said "quadcores are gross". Being "in that platform" means they're stuck with a quadcore at best. Getting better performance if that's what you want/need isn't a "waste of money". A waste of money would be buying an i3 to put in that board.
Because quadcores are gross.
I would check out the apps you use and see if anybody has used them with the newer processors yet. I started using more AMD hardware about a year ago and since then it's been problem after problem. Worst thing about my i7 was it was only a quadcore lol.
I'm also extremely picky and use a variety of somewhat niche applications. If you're just wanting to game I'm sure it'll be fine.
I'm actually returning them. Platform isn't ready, a week full of hassles, lockups, crashes, BSODs and **** just not working.
I built the desk myself.