Unfortunately, the version of the Riing fans we had with that cooler had to be controlled with the Thermaltake controller, so only our case lighting was controlled by the motherboard software.
The H7 Quad Lumi just comes that way. You can get a non-RGB/LED version of the H7 as well, but this one has a USB header that controls the lighting on the fan and top plate.
The Focus G doesn't have built in support for a vertical GPU mount, so the short answer is no.
However, if you really wanted to do it, then it'd have to be a custom modification to the case. You'd need to find or create a support bracket for the GPU and create an appropriate cut out in the back of the case for it to sit into. And then of course you'll want to take into consideration the height of the components coming off the motherboard to sit behind the GPU.
So the long answer kinda comes down to your definition of overly complicated. :)
Skimming the result files, it looks like the max CPU clock reached across any subset of 4 cores was 4.174 GHz, so close, but not quite 4.2. Typically the peak across most testing seemed to land around 4.123 GHz. The system is still built though, I'll see if we can push it a bit more and see if we can get there.
Oh my. That's quite a request.. But glad you enjoyed this one!
Interesting. What CPU are you running? Are you overclocked past 3.5 GHz? I believe the OpenGL test is impacted by both GPU and CPU, but that's certainly a large gap to be behind. I'll re-run those test to make sure we didn't miss something.
We've not created any tutorials for overclocking, though it might be a good idea. That said, a number of recent motherboards have simple "auto tuning" or "quick set" overclock options for pushing your CPU higher without a lot of effort. You might check your motherboard manual to see what it may offer.
Sorry, we didn't overclock on this one and don't still have the CPU on hand, so I don't have any data to particularly share for that scenario. We did apply a simple overclock on our i7-7800X build a while back with some success, though it used a different CLC.
It varies with each build, but no -- we don't sell them. :) With this specific build, for example, the CPU was loaned to us and needed to be returned. Many of the components (Video Card, Memory, Storage and CPU cooler) were used to also create an intentionally similar X399 video. But most of the components typically get set aside for possible reuse in our future videos/livestreams or re-purposed if needed for benchmarking or other projects.
Thanks for the feedback, as always! Glad you enjoyed it.
Indeed. :) Thanks?
We created the part list specifically for the livestream, so a few components will likely be recycled into our inventory for future content. That said, one of our developers is eyeing the high core count setup for a development rig, as he uses a lot of virtual machines.
And everyone in the office is eyeing that EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2. Something about wanting to "more fully benchmark" it.
Combined score is tricky -- the 1950X build I linked has 2-way SLI GTX 1080 Ti GPUs.
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
Can you be more specific about what you see in the FS scores that seems off to you? The individual GPU scores seem pretty reasonable compared to what we saw with this GPU previously and the CPU / Physics scores are just a touch below what we saw with this CPU's big brother.
Not bad at all. During the livestream, they commented on it briefly during the benchmark run. It was pretty quiet.
I feel like it carries its metallic look well in person, but yes, it's a pretty bright red if you're trying to gauge how to match it up.
Sorry for the delay! We hit a few snags along the way, but it's been posted to YouTube now.
If you're curious to take a look, check out our benchmark results, including thermals, on the Completed Build. With the two fans at the bottom of the case feeding fresh air to the radiator and main chamber, our temps didn't give us any major pause. I'll have to take a look at the GN review to see what they might have run into, but I can certainly see (depending on the setup) how you could run into overheating issues. I definitely think this case takes some careful planning to leverage the restricted air flow layout options thanks to the case having only two sides (bottom/rear) available for moving air in and out.
The cables seemed on par with cables from comparable PSUs we've used recently from SeaSonic, Corsair and EVGA.
Cost-wise, it's a 900W 80+Platinum, which for comparison basically places it between 860W and 1000W units. Shown in that range, is seems to (reasonably) align with the prices of units above and below it.
The only negative we really saw was there only being 2 PCIe 6+2 connectors. At 900W, we'd have liked to see 2 more to support 2-Way SLI with 8+6 powered GPUs. But beyond that, we were pleased with the unit.
I'll dig around.. It doesn't look like we posted a completed build for it, but perhaps we have some pictures of the final build I can post.
Thanks! And that's understandable.. It's certainly something of a showpiece case.. But knowing we had a high-end X299 build to find a case for, we thought it reasonably fitting to finally get to check it out.
Oh -- and may the RGB be with you, always.
We bought it back in late July (this build was originally set to happen in early August) so and it was generally available at that time. It does look a bit tough to find right now, including from Inwin's own store. I'll reach out to our contact there and see if I can learn when it might be more available.
We actually built in it a couple years ago, but unfortunately the video is no longer available (it was for one of our early live streams). Was there something you were hoping to see or learn about the case?
To keep the unused DIMM slots from being lonely?
But seriously, because the purpose of most X299/X399 systems is for computational intensive applications, where lots of memory (generally 32-64GB) is helpful (or required).
Thanks -- glad you enjoyed checking it out!
Thanks! I gave a quick run down in a previous reply of our experience, but it was relatively easy to build in. And cable management is always fun when you have no where to hide (at least for us -- not sure about Barry!). :)
Well, everyone has to have their standards, I suppose. :)
Indeed. Glad you enjoyed checking it out!
You've arrived, right on time. :)
Thanks for the feedback and glad you liked it!
Thanks -- glad you enjoyed checking it out.
Honestly, we feared it would be a lot warmer. As it turned out, things ran pretty cool, especially the CPU. Adding the two bottom intake fans seems to have done a good job of providing ample fresh air. Without those, I'm not sure we would have been as happy.
Thanks -- and you are right. Custom cables would look great in this case!
Thanks! and should we manage to get our hands on such power, I imagine we would certainly build with it.. With great power comes -- well, you know... Tempered glass and usually 2-way SLI. Though to be honest -- we don't have anything further planned for X299 right now. :)
I understand the sticker shock -- but it really is a thing of beauty to behold. And the quality of the case construction doesn't disappoint. At that price point we get that it's not for everyone, but it seemed pretty fitting for the build we were creating here.
As for actually building, we were pretty happy with it. The lack of a PSU shroud, while an understandable design choice, was a bit off-putting for developing a strategy to keep cables clean and hidden. But the flip side of that is it made things incredibly easy to maneuver inside the case. For example, we pre-installed the PSU cables, as is our usual recommendation, but you don't have to at all in this case with so much open space to work with.
It did feel a little odd how involved the process was to remove the drive cage so we could add the additional fans, but otherwise it was pretty straight forward. Interesting note on the drive cage -- it can actually be mounted in a couple of positions on the front of the case where we had our radiator as well as it's default position in the bottom of the case. Though you'd have to change up your CPU cooling solution if you decided to do so.
Speaking of the front radiator mount -- a big thumbs up. We've built with a few cases that feature similar mounts and it's always nice to be able to attach the radiator (with it's many screws) outside of the case and then slide it right into place.
There is reasonable space in the back for cables, though since it's a glass panel, you do want to make sure to get everything tucked neatly so there's no pressure on the glass when attached. We only used an M.2 SSD, but keep in mind what you might need to allow for routing if you start adding 2.5" drives on the back. Custom length cables could do amazing things here, I'd wager.
Hope that helps!
Thanks -- they were taken using an Olympus E-M10 Mark II.
Actually, the first thing he did was untangle the mess Ryan and I left for him to clean up...While we do try to route things to semi-optimal locations, it's not always perfectly ordered to make for easy cable management at the end. Especially when there's a large chamber tempting us to through the cables back there with wild abandon.
Okay, to actually answer your question: with so much space in the back chamber of the case (at least once the drive cage was removed), it looks like he decided to unplug the fan controller cables and power supply cables to start. He bundled the excess PSU cable lengths in a way that could still (hopefully) allow for changing things around later if needed. He started with the largest -- the 24 pin power cable -- folding it on itself to minimize it's impact on air flow and keep it out of the way. Then he similarly coiled the GPU and 8-pin EPS cables in the middle. Next he tied up in a tight bundle the excess length from the SATA/Molex cables then re-routed all the case fans going to the RGB/Fan Controller to fit a little cleaner.
Barry wouldn't let us add more cables.. kidding as well -- that would have looked great, but we were also pretty happy with the SilentWings.
Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed checking it out!
Need...want... whatever. :)
Glad you liked it!
No worries -- sorry I missed your question when you first posted it. Hope my answer was helpful!
I checked with Anidees and it sounds like they expect more retail availability over the next couple weeks (late September / early October).
I tested it this afternoon to make sure, but yes -- everything fit. We didn't add it to avoid impeding the air flow between the GPUs, but everything seemed fine.
Good question. We may have to see if we can test that as well sometime. Good luck with your build!
If you're still looking, I checked with Anidees and it sounds like they are expecting more availability in the coming weeks (late Sept/early October), so keep an eye out.
It'd be tough to call the 1080 Ti a bottleneck, as it's one of the most powerful GPU's currently available in the consumer space. While, technically speaking, it will be the limiting factor for gaming performance, that "limit" will generally be 4K/60+FPS gaming under max settings ... if the benchmarks hold with similar systems we've tested in the past.
As much as many a gamer might dream of it, a high core count system like this isn't typically looked at solely for gaming. If you only wanted a gaming PC, you could get similar performance (at least with most games) for a lot less.
So while it will certainly operate with ease under modern gaming scenarios, Ryzen Threadripper CPU's are primarily targeted at high end creative applications (3D modeling/video rendering/editing) or any other intensive processing applications that leverage the high core count (often along with lots of memory) more effectively than their lower core-count cousins (such as the Ryzen 3/5/7 processors) could do.
Anyway, be sure to check back later -- we'll be posting a Completed Build with some benchmarks that can offer more details on how the ultimately system performs past the one 3DMark result we had time to run during the live stream.
Yep, no argument.. We kept it a bit simpler to help the live stream go faster, but a large secondary storage drive (or two) would certainly be welcome for this creator-oriented build.
It depends a good bit on the specifics of the card as well as the airflow provided by the case/case fans. Glancing back over our past 1080 Ti builds, it's varied from ~30-50C at idle.
That said, we tested this build in an open case setup before building it out and check back to my notes under that situation (open air) the GPU's idled around 42/47C, so there's something to be said for getting more air moving across the system, especially with dual cards building up their heat together. The idle/load testing was done with the front case fans on their default (quieter) setting, so it might have performed closer to the open test had we cranked them higher.
Exactly. What hope is left? :)
Thanks & glad you enjoyed it!
We actually did run some video encoding tests on it before taking it apart, but I got busy with the livestream today -- I'll try to get those added tomorrow and let you know
We haven't defined a benchmark for The Witcher 3 yet, but a bit of quick test playing (the first couple areas when you head outside to start training) at 4K/Ultra/FullScreen saw an average of 84 fps. Minimum I saw during the gameplay was ~75fps and as you moved around quite often saw peaks around 100 fps.