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Fractal Design Define C TG / MSI X399 Build

by BoyScout

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40 Comments

Details

Date Published

Oct. 3, 2017

Date Built

Sept. 19, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

3.5 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

31.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

68.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.556 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

11.016 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

29.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

77.0° C

Description

Josh from Fractal Design stopped by to help us build an AMD Ryzen Threadripper system inside the recently released Define C TG (tempered glass) case. You can watch an archive of the livestream to see how the build came together and check the cable management time lapse to see how Barry cleaned up the cables.

A big thanks to Fractal Design for providing the case and CPU cooler, MSI for providing the motherboard and EVGA for providing the video card used in this build.

And now, some benchmarks:

Detail Temperature
CPU Idle 31 C
CPU Load 68 C
GPU Idle 29 C
GPU under load 77 C
Benchmark Overall Score Graphics Score Physics Score Combined Score CPU Score
FireStrike (v1.1) 17760 26987 22637 4569 --
FireStrike Extreme (v1.1) 12409 13660 22698 5244 --
FireStrike Ultra (v1.1) 6951 6805 22807 3695 --
Time Spy (v1.1) 9423 9686 -- -- 8168
Benchmark Result
Cinebench R15: CPU (Single) 160 cb (MP Ratio: 14.67x)
Cinebench R15: CPU (Multi) 2344 cb
Cinebench R15: OpenGL 100.61 fps
Benchmark Setting Preset Resolution Average FPS GPU Usage CPU Usage
Ashes of the Singularity Crazy 3840x2160 55.65 fps -- --
Ashes of the Singularity Extreme 3840x2160 59.04 fps -- --
Ashes of the Singularity High 3840x2160 68.34 fps -- --
Ghost Recon: Wildlands Ultra 3840x2160 38.05 fps 98.1% 15.6%
Ghost Recon: Wildlands Very High 3840x2160 52.60 fps 98.0% 17.1%
Ghost Recon: Wildlands High 3840x2160 58.60 fps 98.0% 18.5%

Comments Sorted by:

kenny3a2003 1 Build 8 points 18 months ago

Could have been a 1920x1080 build, lolol

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

:D Nice.

MuchLinux6500 2 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

WOAh!

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Indeed. :) Thanks?

MuchLinux6500 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

:)

MannyPCs 2 points 18 months ago

Beautiful!

+1

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Thanks for the feedback, as always! Glad you enjoyed it.

thermophile 2 points 17 months ago

did your memory OC well with this build? ive been looking into that memory for my tr build.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Sorry, I missed your question when you posted it originally. You've probably already moved on, but we did apply one of the built in overclock profiles to the memory and have been using the PC off and on for a couple months now for editing videos in Premiere without any instability. I'd need to check tomorrow on what speed we managed to set them to and get back to you.

GEFTi 1 point 9 months ago

be aware the max speed posted by amd for threadripper is 2667MHz

shreduhsoreus 5 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I feel like your Firestrike scores should be much higher.

Love your choices of hardware though.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Can you be more specific about what you see in the FS scores that seems off to you? The individual GPU scores seem pretty reasonable compared to what we saw with this GPU previously and the CPU / Physics scores are just a touch below what we saw with this CPU's big brother.

shreduhsoreus 5 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

The combined score just seems really low which is drastically throwing off the final score. I know that Threadripper can't keep up with Intel in terms of gaming, but I figured to see at least 19-20k overall. I'm seeing 8k combined on the 1950X, I just don't really understand how the 1920X is only hitting 4500, especially when you consider how close the two are on the physics test.

For FS Ultra's combined scores I'm seeing 6381 vs 3695. Very possible that I'm wrong, but those numbers just don't seem right. Delta seems too drastic.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 3 points 18 months ago

Combined score is tricky -- the 1950X build I linked has 2-way SLI GTX 1080 Ti GPUs.

shreduhsoreus 5 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Well now I'm just even more confused(didn't realize it was SLI) because my single OC'd 1080 Ti hits almost 32k in the graphics test with a much higher overall score. Granted I'm using an OC'd 6700K. My Time Spy overall score is similar to the 1920x/1080 Ti, though.

Firestrike is weird. I guess this just furthers the notion that we shouldn't rely on synthetic benchmarks to judge gaming performance.

Spoomels 1 point 18 months ago

What about noise? Does it get loud?

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Not bad at all. During the livestream, they commented on it briefly during the benchmark run. It was pretty quiet.

MjolnirThunder 1 point 18 months ago

Wow, EVGA's stock photos don't at all do justice to how bright red that card is. Their pictures make it look more dull and metallic.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I feel like it carries its metallic look well in person, but yes, it's a pretty bright red if you're trying to gauge how to match it up.

fn230 9 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Ayy, what will it be used for?

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

We created the part list specifically for the livestream, so a few components will likely be recycled into our inventory for future content. That said, one of our developers is eyeing the high core count setup for a development rig, as he uses a lot of virtual machines.

And everyone in the office is eyeing that EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2. Something about wanting to "more fully benchmark" it.

aldo11061979 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Nice build why is OpenGL in Cinebench somewhat low ? I score 179 and i have a 1070.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Interesting. What CPU are you running? Are you overclocked past 3.5 GHz? I believe the OpenGL test is impacted by both GPU and CPU, but that's certainly a large gap to be behind. I'll re-run those test to make sure we didn't miss something.

aldo11061979 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Running I7 6850k at 4.5Ghz And GTX Strix 1070

MoreGaming 1 point 18 months ago

Maybe for the next build a X299 7960X With the new MSI Gaming X Trio in the HP500 That would be cool, But looking at the benchmarks from GRW it's very unoptimized for PC i'm very disappointed in ubisoft for releasing such a bad port. other than that AWESOME build keep it up. +1

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 18 months ago

Oh my. That's quite a request.. But glad you enjoyed this one!

ilovepcs10 1 Build 1 point 18 months ago

Gosh those fractal design cases are so sleek and elegant

FurryJackman 3 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Thoroughly impressed with the cable management in the back.

Was the system able to hit max XFR frequency with the Celsius S24?

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

Skimming the result files, it looks like the max CPU clock reached across any subset of 4 cores was 4.174 GHz, so close, but not quite 4.2. Typically the peak across most testing seemed to land around 4.123 GHz. The system is still built though, I'll see if we can push it a bit more and see if we can get there.

clayder 1 point 18 months ago

How is the air flow within this case ? looks like very tight inside. Any heat problem ?

Lexkalin 2 Builds 1 point 18 months ago

I have a similar case (no TG, just C) and you can look at my build with both front-mounted aio and heatsink for cpu cooling here https://pcpartpicker.com/b/BHWD4D

While cpu are has a good airflow, the gpu (at least with an open air coolers) gets higher than average temps due to the heat getting trapped and not really dissipating much in that area between psu shroud and gpu, causing the hot air to recirculate and warm up gpu further. I found no solution to this problem sadly and the restrictive front panel with dust filter just add up to the issue. If you mount a radiator in front - the temps will be even worse compared to using heatsink on a cpu. With that case I'd really suggest using a blower card. Surprisingly, you might end up getting better temps and less noise in that scenario.

evrial 1 point 15 months ago

Do you have a problem with this specific PSU very loud fan noise under load with eco mode on?

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I'll have to double check which mode the PSU is in, but after a couple months using the PC I haven't heard any notable noise from the PSU.

CycloneSix 1 point 15 months ago

does that board have its own dedicated wifi built onto it? i love the case but had wanted to use the ASUS board.. sadly it doesnt support EATX so im a little bummed out. the built in wifi was a keeper for me as my modem is practically a world away

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Yes, the X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC includes an internal PCIe (x1) dual band / 802.11 ac card.

CycloneSix 1 point 15 months ago

awesome! thank you!!!

PuJo 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Great gaming rig! This gave me some of the influence to build mine!

M.b17 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

Hey I was wondering if this psu is enough for this build because I'm building a pc with similar components and looking at the same power supply.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Definitely. The max system draw in this build is actually under 500W, though we usually allow some headroom for future GPU upgrades, etc. The main requirement that pushes you to higher wattage PSUs on X399 is the need for two CPU power connectors, which tend to only be available on higher wattage units. (The PCPartPicker system builder's compatibility check filters this for you automatically if you've added a motherboard that needs it before selecting a power supply.)

M.b17 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Okay thank you so much this helps a lot